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the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour
the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula...
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it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley, one senior u.s. defense official tells the "washington post." "the post" also reports that allen received at least one e-mail that talks about kelley from an unidentified account that was traced to none other than paula broadwell. well, there you have it. you're investigating this. i tried to explain this, and i'm trying not to be light-hearted, but there's such an aspect to this story rather well below the importance of the positions these men hold. one of them being, of course, our commander in afghanistan. the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the
it turns out that another major military figure, general john allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley, one senior u.s. defense official tells the "washington post." "the post" also reports that allen...
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senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas militant. according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a wa
senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas...
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john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denouncing the scandal that congress is not being given enough information about this horrible scandal that he can't get any answers on. while john mccain was demanding answers at this press conference, that he convened yesterday morning, some of this colleagues, from a committee that he's a member of, were getting answers. on the subject that he was so mad about. john mccain was missing a three-hour high-level closed classified briefing on what exactly happened in benghazi from representatives of the state department, national counterterrorism center, fbi, john mccain did not get any of the classified briefing, did not get any of that information or questions answered by any of those people because he skipped the briefing and instead went and yelled at tv cameras about how he couldn't get any information. and when a cnn producer had the good sense to ask senator mccain about why he was yelling about not
john mccain needs more information. this, for example, is john mccain convening a press conference yesterday morning denouncing the scandal that congress is not being given enough information about this horrible scandal that he can't get any answers on. while john mccain was demanding answers at this press conference, that he convened yesterday morning, some of this colleagues, from a committee that he's a member of, were getting answers. on the subject that he was so mad about. john mccain was...
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this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley the same jill kelley who received questionable e-mails from paula broadwell. the fbi's investigation into those e-mails eventually revealed broadwell's affair with general petraeus which eventually led to petraeus' resignation. remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is n
this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley the same jill kelley who received questionable...
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can john boehner, do you think john boehner can corral or quiet the more radical elements of the republican party to come to the table with the president to make a grand deal in some form or fashion? >> ultimately, yes. i think those are the starting negotiating positions which are understandable. you have obama 250, you have republicans at least admitting there needs to be new revenue and want to go through the loopholes first and see where they can get revenue there. that's obviously not going to be enough. some point they're going to have to give on it. it may be ultimately that we have a situation where they -- the tax cut dozen expire. we go off the cliff for 24 hours but that offers the republicans an opportunity to come back and vote for a tax cut for those under 250 rather than increase through extension. that's an outcome that's possible. >> i'm curious about the notion the republicans can save face if we go over the fiscal cliff although lately people have been calling it the fiscal curb, it's unclear how much of a steep drop it is in the first 24 hours. can republicans, if the pr
can john boehner, do you think john boehner can corral or quiet the more radical elements of the republican party to come to the table with the president to make a grand deal in some form or fashion? >> ultimately, yes. i think those are the starting negotiating positions which are understandable. you have obama 250, you have republicans at least admitting there needs to be new revenue and want to go through the loopholes first and see where they can get revenue there. that's obviously...
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it makes perfect sense. >>> also, your john mccain hypocrisy alert is coming. he wants an apology from susan rice. is he kidding? we're still waiting on yours. >>> plus, here comes their worst night mare. we'll tell you what senate republicans are secretly saying behind closed doors about elizabeth warren coming to washington. not exactly planning a welcome party. >>> and how about this picture all over the internet? we'll explain what it's all about. >>> in a conference call, he won because he gave big gifts to target ed voters but some believe he won because of the big gift he got from republicans. [ male announcer ] what are happy kids made of? bikes and balloons, and noodles on spoons. a kite, a breeze, a dunk of grilled cheese. catches and throws, and spaghettio's. a wand, some wings, soup with good things. sidewalks and doodles and wholesome noodles. puddles and pails and yes, puppy dog tails. for a lunch like this, there's a hug and a kiss. because that's what happy kids are made of. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. five days later, i had a mas
it makes perfect sense. >>> also, your john mccain hypocrisy alert is coming. he wants an apology from susan rice. is he kidding? we're still waiting on yours. >>> plus, here comes their worst night mare. we'll tell you what senate republicans are secretly saying behind closed doors about elizabeth warren coming to washington. not exactly planning a welcome party. >>> and how about this picture all over the internet? we'll explain what it's all about. >>> in...
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you have john mccain and lindsey graham both saying if her nomination is put forward, they will filibuster it. are there any indications that that would become an official republican party position, because if the republicans unite, they would have the 40 votes to kill it by filibuster. >> there is a lot of opposition among republicans to a potential susan rice nomination. people are not actively talking about filibuster, although that's the obvious presumption if you talk about members trying to block something like this. in some was they are saying that she was schoezen bied white house to be the public face in the early days after the attack to talk about what happened. if she were to become secretary of state, she would need sort of a greater sense of recognizing that the story that was being put forward might not be accurate. they're sort of compelling her to have greater knowledge than what was given to her by the intelligence community. she has become a political focus here. whether they actually go forward with that or not is a matter to be decided later. what it has done in the mo
you have john mccain and lindsey graham both saying if her nomination is put forward, they will filibuster it. are there any indications that that would become an official republican party position, because if the republicans unite, they would have the 40 votes to kill it by filibuster. >> there is a lot of opposition among republicans to a potential susan rice nomination. people are not actively talking about filibuster, although that's the obvious presumption if you talk about members...
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i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or things they may not like that comes out of these negotiations? >> reporter: well, i think it's both. i think it's that he's trying to prepare some on the left for concessions. he's trying to build up really his strength to be able to put pressure on republicans to come to the table with him over taxes. president obama meeting with with union leaders early this week, also business leaders, so he's really trying to form a broad consensus, i think, to put pressure on republicans and democrats to get something done, to actually get something accomplished before that january 1st deadline. tam
i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or...
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bush. >>> finally, today is john boehner's 63rd birthday. and to help him celebrate and maybe smooth over the fiscal cliff discussions, president obama gave boehner is $125 bottle of red wine, a vintage 1997. >>> we'll get you up to speed on the latest developments from the middle east. the white house hoping for deescalation in the face of increasing attacks and counterattacks from hamas and israel. >>> why democrats are concerned about their numbers in the senate, despite winning a majority there. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. ♪ i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. >>> i'm mara schiavocampo. outrage in egypt after 49 kindergartners were killed when a train slammed i
bush. >>> finally, today is john boehner's 63rd birthday. and to help him celebrate and maybe smooth over the fiscal cliff discussions, president obama gave boehner is $125 bottle of red wine, a vintage 1997. >>> we'll get you up to speed on the latest developments from the middle east. the white house hoping for deescalation in the face of increasing attacks and counterattacks from hamas and israel. >>> why democrats are concerned about their numbers in the senate,...
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the ringleader on this occasion is senator john mccain. the president's opponent four years ago had plenty of time to push the idea of a scandal during a news conference wednesday, and then again during a speech from the senate floor just after the president had addressed the issue himself. yet that forced mr. mccain and other republicans to skip a closed door classified briefing on the attacks where presumably most of his questions would have been answered. the reason? well, there are no cameras in closed door meetings. for more we head to washington and congressman charles rangel of new york. good afternoon. >> hi, martin, good to be back with you. >> republican senator susan collins chided mr. mccain for his absence at wednesday's meeting. she said his request for a new committee to investigate benghazi is, and i'm quoting, not necessary. what is your assessment of mr. mccain's attacks on the president? >> i am surprised, and i'm disappointed. i think that senator mccain has earned the respect of this great country in being able to tell
the ringleader on this occasion is senator john mccain. the president's opponent four years ago had plenty of time to push the idea of a scandal during a news conference wednesday, and then again during a speech from the senate floor just after the president had addressed the issue himself. yet that forced mr. mccain and other republicans to skip a closed door classified briefing on the attacks where presumably most of his questions would have been answered. the reason? well, there are no...
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john mccain was on the "today" show this morning. he was asked, mark, about susan rice and his already -- i guess he's saying he would stand in the way of her being secretary of state. he was asked about condoleezza rice and supporting her during obvious controversial times. let's play that. >> you said opponents of condoleezza rice were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different? >> because every intelligence agency in the world, including the british, believe that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. that was an entirely different situation. four americans died that didn't have to die. >> so, mark, the double-standard at least as some alleged here, senator mccain does not see it. >> this goes to the whole point that this, tamron, is a lot more about personal than the professional. this goes back to a grudge, obvious obviously, that john mccain has had with president obama since the 2008 presidential election. you mentioned that clip of condoleezza rice. it's worth noting that not only were there wmd intel
john mccain was on the "today" show this morning. he was asked, mark, about susan rice and his already -- i guess he's saying he would stand in the way of her being secretary of state. he was asked about condoleezza rice and supporting her during obvious controversial times. let's play that. >> you said opponents of condoleezza rice were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different? >> because every intelligence agency in the world, including the...
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and then people we forget completely like john davis. these are names i had to look up because they are hard to remember. that's bad for a party. and that is what i think we're going e to see happen to mitt romn romney. he didn't stand for enough beforehand. he doesn't stand enough to be associated with a losing set of politics. the only thing worse for being disliked is being irrelevant and not remembered at all. >> the hope they will change their ways, bobby jindal has been getting positive accolades rained down upon him. but he brought up the notion they need to have better candidates in the senate races. the apointment of ted cruz, a question mark as far as how well that serves the republican party listen to what he said about the indiana and missouri races. >> we don't need to be saying stupid things. we had candidates that said offensive things that not only hurt themselves and lost those senate seats, but it hurt the republican party across the board. >> if you have a problem running crazy people in senate races, why is ted cruz y
and then people we forget completely like john davis. these are names i had to look up because they are hard to remember. that's bad for a party. and that is what i think we're going e to see happen to mitt romn romney. he didn't stand for enough beforehand. he doesn't stand enough to be associated with a losing set of politics. the only thing worse for being disliked is being irrelevant and not remembered at all. >> the hope they will change their ways, bobby jindal has been getting...
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john, can you talk about that? this is not just republicans having a deal with a fraction coalition. it may be democrats, too. >> that's right. democrats have taken different positions on where they would draw the line, if they would loo draw the line at all. a bunch of moderate democratic senators who may not want to draw that at $250 think. >> john, i'm sorry. we're having an audio problem that i think they're going to fix. i'm going to amy. amy, i have the same question for you. let's see if the mike will work. >> okay. well, i think that the democrats do have a problem. senator reid needs 60 votes to extend the middle tax -- the middle income tax rates. the democrats are disputing on entitlements. i think they have a problem there. it's not, well, president obama has the leverage. there is some dispute about what democrats do really want. >> amie, i am looking at this third way which is kind of a moderate democratic group. they did a poll among voters who supported president obama about entitlement reform. they
john, can you talk about that? this is not just republicans having a deal with a fraction coalition. it may be democrats, too. >> that's right. democrats have taken different positions on where they would draw the line, if they would loo draw the line at all. a bunch of moderate democratic senators who may not want to draw that at $250 think. >> john, i'm sorry. we're having an audio problem that i think they're going to fix. i'm going to amy. amy, i have the same question for you....
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so will john. >> thanks so much. i appreciate your time. >>> welcome back, everybody. we led the top of the show with the deadly rocket fire taking place between israel and gaza, sirens going off in tel aviv. martin fletcher joins me on the phone. what do we know why the sirens are going off? >> we're not clear, to be honest. with the sirens some drama all over tel aviv and some -- there have been reports of rockets falling in the tel aviv area and in south tel aviv but we haven't confirmation of that yet. sirens in tel aviv put a lot of people into panic. i can tell you, in our small building here, people running up and down the stares into the bomb shelters. the fact is anytime people have been killed in these situations, it's because they didn't do what they were told, didn't go to the bomb shelter. today, three israeli citizens were killed in a town. the reason they were killed they went to the sirens ounded, they went to the balcony instead of the safe area and they were killed in that way. when there's a siren, you need to run for it. >> tell everybody the last t
so will john. >> thanks so much. i appreciate your time. >>> welcome back, everybody. we led the top of the show with the deadly rocket fire taking place between israel and gaza, sirens going off in tel aviv. martin fletcher joins me on the phone. what do we know why the sirens are going off? >> we're not clear, to be honest. with the sirens some drama all over tel aviv and some -- there have been reports of rockets falling in the tel aviv area and in south tel aviv but we...
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apparently john boehner didn't get the memo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we've seen talk about a possible compromise that would leave rates the same, but cap the deductions for high income earners. is that something acceptable? >> no. >> democrats aren't budging. the service employees international union breaks news on my radio show. >> how would you feel if the bush tax cuts expired all the way across the board and we started over with the obama tax cuts? how would that work for you? >> i think that would be acceptable. >> former labor secretary robert reich and congressman bill pascrell on the latest movement on the fight for the middle class. >>> a judge orders mediation for hostess and its employees. but make no mistake, the vulture capitalists will get their cut. i'll talk twinkie with rolling stone's matt taibbi. >>> plus john mccain. >> the chickens are now coming home the roost. >>> the banks revolt against elizabeth warren, and workers are threatening strikes at walmart stores across america. >> we expect our associates to sh
apparently john boehner didn't get the memo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we've seen talk about a possible compromise that would leave rates the same, but cap the deductions for high income earners. is that something acceptable? >> no. >> democrats aren't budging. the service employees international union breaks news on my radio show. >> how would you feel if the bush tax cuts expired all the way across the board and we started over with the...
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john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to respond to what was a messaging campaign that didn't work? >> well, i think most of our leadership is relatively new. i've been in the leadership a year. the two job above me have only held those junes for a year. i don't know if that would have the same impact. i think a lot of what happened this cycle and last cycle was so unprecedented in the way that people are reacting to outside assistance. and other things, that i'm not sure that would have had a lot of political impact, no matter what we did. but i do clearly think we need to communicate better. we need to have a message th
john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to respond...
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kerry that we saw with john mccain. >> paul ryan sleeps in his own congressional office. he went from this massive traveling pool to every great hotel in america to back sleeping on a cot in his office. >> it's now clear, paul cain is against sleeping in your office. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> sure. >>> up next, snack cakes selling like hotcakes. hostess products are flying off the shelves. can the company find a buyer? the market rundown is next. >>> plus, with israel and hamas on the brink of all-out war, chuck's conversation with tommy vitor. first, today's trivia question. since 1900, how many winning presidential tickets lost both of the states that the running mates called home at the time? paul cain is furiously racking his plain. brain. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios tend to weigh less than those who don't. some people put everything intotheir name on the door, and their
kerry that we saw with john mccain. >> paul ryan sleeps in his own congressional office. he went from this massive traveling pool to every great hotel in america to back sleeping on a cot in his office. >> it's now clear, paul cain is against sleeping in your office. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> sure. >>> up next, snack cakes selling like hotcakes. hostess products are flying off the shelves. can the company find a buyer? the market rundown is next....
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why has john mccain become this john mccain. he's like the joker in batman. life has been good to me. >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that hillary clinton wanted to beef up embassy and consulate security? there are some questions, there are republicans who opposed that need to answer. that's one of the reasons those people lost their lives. >> it's sad. thank you, ron reagan and jonathan alter. >>> coming up, there are dog whistles and then there are bull horns and another republican official is blowing his next. and that is "hardball," the place for politics. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by
why has john mccain become this john mccain. he's like the joker in batman. life has been good to me. >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that...
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general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> now, let me ask, general allen is now under investigation for his relationship with jill kelley. what can you tell us about the relationship and what can you tell us about miss kelley. >> we should say we don't know for sure. as you pointed out, the e-mails, these voluminous -- apparently voluminous
general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general...
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. >> senator john mccain is really pushing. and you heard the sound from yesterday. i want to play what he said on the "today show." listen to this. >> by the way, i'm not taking anybody on. the american people lost four brave americans. we owe it to their families. for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that's the case is a coverup or incompetence. either one of the two. >> we've heard this from him. from lindsay graham and kelly iot. are those just the three that feel this way? are they outlieers. >> i think there's a big demand to find out what happened in benghazi and to do so through a select committee. there's going to be no sharing of intelligence between the various committees who look into benghazi. so the idea is a select committee can take this on, share information and really get to the bottom of it. what republicans are saying is the obama administration has put out very conflicting stories about what happened in benghazi, when they knew about it, what they did about it and how they sort of perpetuated the idea this was a
. >> senator john mccain is really pushing. and you heard the sound from yesterday. i want to play what he said on the "today show." listen to this. >> by the way, i'm not taking anybody on. the american people lost four brave americans. we owe it to their families. for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that's the case is a coverup or incompetence. either one of the two. >> we've heard this from him. from lindsay graham and kelly...
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so john boehner is doing some sort of, i would say, pre-emptive keeping his friends closer that time around than the last negotiation in the summer of 2011. >> luke russert explaining the inexplicable to our audience. thank you, sir, so much. >> take care. >>> the only subject on which republicans may be more disingenuous than the fiscal cliff is the subject of benghazi. we bring in clarence page, columnist for ""the chicago tribune."" welcome back. thank y >> thank you. >> you had the republicans on the sunday talk shows trying to peddle benghazi into something bigger. >> they are pushing it by raising questions and saying we need answers, we need answers, and they aren't going to wait for answers. they're going to imply or speculate that there was a cover-up of some kind in order to bury the idea that this was a terrorist attack and play up the anti-mohammed video. this has been the narrative that republicans have been pushing in order to raise suspicious. >> but, clarence, to your point about raising questions, i'm sorry to interrupt, but one -- the republican who heads the house
so john boehner is doing some sort of, i would say, pre-emptive keeping his friends closer that time around than the last negotiation in the summer of 2011. >> luke russert explaining the inexplicable to our audience. thank you, sir, so much. >> take care. >>> the only subject on which republicans may be more disingenuous than the fiscal cliff is the subject of benghazi. we bring in clarence page, columnist for ""the chicago tribune."" welcome back....
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but john kerry would be first in line to succeed him. what i find interesting is if it's true, it means the white house is not buying into the idea you can't pick john kerry because it opens up the senate seat and scott brown wins the senate seat. >> do you like kerry at defense as an idea? >> he's as qualified as anybody if he wants that. i just feel like if you want him for that job and you think he's a good match, don't be scared off by this guy. >> 100% agree. >> if he's the right guy for the job, that's where he belongs. >> i tried to throw steve a life raft so you didn't have to talk about petraeus and you threw me right off. that was the ridiculous segue. any way, next up, we continue our series taking a look at the most pressing issues facing the country. this last conversation not being one of them. today the issue was one that affects every american's wallet. we're talking taxes. >>> they are encouraging customers to shop local. they created lady's night in burbank, california, to boost sales by staying open late. make sure to
but john kerry would be first in line to succeed him. what i find interesting is if it's true, it means the white house is not buying into the idea you can't pick john kerry because it opens up the senate seat and scott brown wins the senate seat. >> do you like kerry at defense as an idea? >> he's as qualified as anybody if he wants that. i just feel like if you want him for that job and you think he's a good match, don't be scared off by this guy. >> 100% agree. >> if...
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now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment started the initial investigation. a senior defense official traveling with panetta says 20,000 to 30,000 pages of epail and other documents from general allen's communications with kelley are under review. the official says general allen disputes engaging in any wrong doing in the matter. the fbi referred the matter to the department of defense for investigation on sunday. early this morning secretary panetta directed that the defense department's inspector general investigate. last night fbi agents went to
now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill...
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officials say the investigation was triggered in may when general john allen received an e-mail from an account called kelly patrol. sources close to kelley warned the zwroen stay away from her, she could ruin him. general allen say pim close to jill kelley forwarded it to her on the account she shares with her husband scott thinking she sent it as a joke. sources say she told general allen she did not send it but was concerned she was being stalked or electronically hacked because the e-mail referred to a meeting that she and allen scheduled in washington for the following week. in june people close to kelley say she and her husband received four different embarrass from different accounts saying jill she is up to no good, asking her husband, do you know what your wife is up to when she has dinner with general petraeus. she turned over all the e-mails to an fib agent she knew, never realizing the impact they would have. people close to the kelleys say that she never had an affair to general allen and they found no evidence to the contrary. but there was enough inappropriate language
officials say the investigation was triggered in may when general john allen received an e-mail from an account called kelly patrol. sources close to kelley warned the zwroen stay away from her, she could ruin him. general allen say pim close to jill kelley forwarded it to her on the account she shares with her husband scott thinking she sent it as a joke. sources say she told general allen she did not send it but was concerned she was being stalked or electronically hacked because the e-mail...
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top informed leaders, david petraeus and john allen. why one woman in tampa is connected to top of the u.s. military brass. >>> congressman chris van holden will join me on the fiscal cliff. >>> and ally sheedy is going to be here, how she's lending her voice to a group left homeless after hurricane sandy. that and more coming up at the top of the hour. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. no one says that anymore, mom. [ woman ] raise the roof! ah? raise the roof! [ male announcer ] it's our biggest toy rollback of the year. find hundreds of rollbacks on the season's hottest toys in stores now, from america's gift headquarters, walmart. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insu
top informed leaders, david petraeus and john allen. why one woman in tampa is connected to top of the u.s. military brass. >>> congressman chris van holden will join me on the fiscal cliff. >>> and ally sheedy is going to be here, how she's lending her voice to a group left homeless after hurricane sandy. that and more coming up at the top of the hour. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our...
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here is house speaker john boehner yesterday after meeting with the president. >> i believe that the framework that i've outlined in our meeting today is consistent with the president's call for a fair and balanced approach. to show our seriousness, we've put revenue on the table. >> now, in politics, much of power is about perception. in a post re-election 2012, perceptions are mighty different. here's the president at his first post re-election press conference on wednesday. >> if there was one thing that everybody understood was a big difference between myself and mr. romney, it was when it comes to how we reduce our deficit, i argued for a balanced responsible approach and part of that included making sure that the wealthiest americans pay a little bit more. i think every voter out there understood that that was an important debate. and the majority of voters agreed with me. by the way, more voters agreed with me on this issue than voted for me. >> now, that is not the president obama of yesteryear or even last year. this week the president's opening bid was to raise $1.6 trillio
here is house speaker john boehner yesterday after meeting with the president. >> i believe that the framework that i've outlined in our meeting today is consistent with the president's call for a fair and balanced approach. to show our seriousness, we've put revenue on the table. >> now, in politics, much of power is about perception. in a post re-election 2012, perceptions are mighty different. here's the president at his first post re-election press conference on wednesday....
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. >> that confirmation process has been put on hold for general john allen. they're speeding up the confirmation process for his replacement in afghanistan. we're awaiting of course for the white house to respond on camera. i can tell you that the briefing will likely focus on exclusively on this issue the fallout from general petraeus and now general john allen. white house released this statement in the early hours of this morning, we havegraphic of it. it says, quote at the question of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold his nomination of general allen as saceur pending the investigation of john allen. that's coming from tommy vietor. this is coming the days after president obama won re-election. certainly not how the administration envisioned the first few days of the new term. they are certainly stunned by some of these developments and trying to stay focused on the fiscal cliff, that's something that's pending and potentially could impact all americans, however, this is something they'll have to deal with, president obama is set to h
. >> that confirmation process has been put on hold for general john allen. they're speeding up the confirmation process for his replacement in afghanistan. we're awaiting of course for the white house to respond on camera. i can tell you that the briefing will likely focus on exclusively on this issue the fallout from general petraeus and now general john allen. white house released this statement in the early hours of this morning, we havegraphic of it. it says, quote at the question of...
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. >> there have been calls by some on the hill including senator john mccain for a select committee to investigate the attack in benghazi. senate majority leader harry reed rejected that to senators graham and others. i revvs fuse to allow the senat be used as a venue for baseless attacks. did the testimony shut down some of that partisan bickering? >> i think a little bit it did. petraeus said they had taken the references to the terrorist groups who joined in -- took out references to the terrorist groups who participated in the attacks because they're afraid of releasing sensitive information, letting the terrori terrorists know they were being monitored. if you look at the transcript, susan rice said pretty much what the talking points told her to say. she overemphasized maybe the role of the video but in general followed it down the rhine. >> if we can go back to the developing role in this middle east. we learned the president will be getting daily updates while in asia. white house deputy national security advisor ben rhodes saying the president wants the same thing the israelis
. >> there have been calls by some on the hill including senator john mccain for a select committee to investigate the attack in benghazi. senate majority leader harry reed rejected that to senators graham and others. i revvs fuse to allow the senat be used as a venue for baseless attacks. did the testimony shut down some of that partisan bickering? >> i think a little bit it did. petraeus said they had taken the references to the terrorist groups who joined in -- took out...
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i think john's right, i think the original sin was the biggest. starting an investigation based on perhaps, perhaps, perhaps a romantic contest for david petraeus' -- >> there's nothing else that started that investigation except for e-mails that said i saw what you were doing? >> half dozen e-mails. >> that's frightening. >> that's a big sin. but the other sin is at the end when they find out there is no criminal conduct here and then they decide to move it beyond the walls of the fbi. >> who is the -- again, to be as precise as possible, who is the supervisor of the shirtless fbi agent -- the shirtless fbi agent presumably has to come back to someone and say i'm now about to -- well, we don't know his name. he has to come back and say i propose opening up a cyber crimes investigation on the basis of what? who is the person that looks at that evidence and says, yes, you are now authorized to access this -- >> because of six e-mails. >> because of these e-mails. >> we don't know the total scope of the e-mails, but on the basis, it would seem to me
i think john's right, i think the original sin was the biggest. starting an investigation based on perhaps, perhaps, perhaps a romantic contest for david petraeus' -- >> there's nothing else that started that investigation except for e-mails that said i saw what you were doing? >> half dozen e-mails. >> that's frightening. >> that's a big sin. but the other sin is at the end when they find out there is no criminal conduct here and then they decide to move it beyond the...
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there's been a lot of talk where john kerry is going to go. whether he would be secretary of state or defense. there's this question about whether susan rice might be elevated to secretary of state. the republicans, of course, tried to turn it into a national scandal that she commented after the benghazi attack and said that at that point best intelligence indicated it might have something to do with that protest about the film. the intelligence community later changed its mind saying they don't think it's related. the republicans have tried to hang her out to dry on that subject. do you think that's over, or if she gets the secretary of state nomination, it's a real hurdle for her? >> i don't think it's a real hurdle if she gets it. frankly, i don't think republicans want to go up against a very distinguished african-american woman in public life with no grounds whatsoever. getting back to kerry, kerry, who actually did serve, could be and has been in the past a great voice for what you're talking about for taking care of our military, taking
there's been a lot of talk where john kerry is going to go. whether he would be secretary of state or defense. there's this question about whether susan rice might be elevated to secretary of state. the republicans, of course, tried to turn it into a national scandal that she commented after the benghazi attack and said that at that point best intelligence indicated it might have something to do with that protest about the film. the intelligence community later changed its mind saying they...
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meanwhile, the white house says the president still has faith in general john allen. he, of course, is the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> sweetheart, thank you for all that you have done for me and for our precious -- >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record but on a flight to australia monday night aides to defense secretary leon panetta said there was a dramatic turn in the case. fbi investigators uncovered potentia
meanwhile, the white house says the president still has faith in general john allen. he, of course, is the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa...
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joining me now is jonathan allen. >> the other john allen. >> the other john allen. all we're missing now is for someone to wake up from a coma in a hospital and reveal they were the rightful commander of the troops. i mean the thing, this has spiraled and seemingly almost out of control. the reality, of course, is that there are 68,000 troops in afghanistan, we have military conflict in the middle east, what does this say and do to the leadership on the defense side? >> look, unless you believe that these are the only men that could carry out these jobs well, then the defense infrastructure and the national security infrastructure of the united states should be relatively unaffected by this. there should be people that can come into those jobs and do those jobs well. if you believe these are the only men that can do those jobs to protect our country in the case of david petraeus, having him resign from the cia would have been a terrible thing and the president should have stopped him from doing it. in the case of general allen, stopping his promotion would be a terr
joining me now is jonathan allen. >> the other john allen. >> the other john allen. all we're missing now is for someone to wake up from a coma in a hospital and reveal they were the rightful commander of the troops. i mean the thing, this has spiraled and seemingly almost out of control. the reality, of course, is that there are 68,000 troops in afghanistan, we have military conflict in the middle east, what does this say and do to the leadership on the defense side? >> look,...
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now the scandal spreads from general petraeus to his replacement general john allen the top commander in afghanistan. his nomination to become the supreme allied commander in nato is side tracked by e-mails with tampa socialite jill kelley. >> this has the elements in some ways of a hollywood movie or a trashy novel but the bottom line, you're talking about families, youpds standing military leaders and the impact it has on the country and overall questions about the fbi. >> the pentagon says it has uncovered 20 to 30,000 potentially inappropriate documents exchanged between general allen and kelley the woman's whose complaints first triggered the investigation that brought down petraeus. what about paula broadwell's role? late monday night with her consent federal agents served broadwell's home for hours, carting out boxes and bags as they are wrapping up their investigation. >> defense secretary leon panetta on route to australia was the first top administration official to comment on the petraeus departure. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're d
now the scandal spreads from general petraeus to his replacement general john allen the top commander in afghanistan. his nomination to become the supreme allied commander in nato is side tracked by e-mails with tampa socialite jill kelley. >> this has the elements in some ways of a hollywood movie or a trashy novel but the bottom line, you're talking about families, youpds standing military leaders and the impact it has on the country and overall questions about the fbi. >> the...
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general john allen is in washington today. he was preparing for his own confirmation hearing to be the supreme allied commander in europe. that's on hold. the hearing for joseph dunford to be allen's successor as commander in afghanistan will go ahead. look, we have all the angles covered here. nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, investigative correspondent michaeli isikoff. pete williams seemed to indicate the fbi was closing its investigation of broadwell. so why have to go to her house? >> reporter: well, the fbi confirms, chuck, it did conduct a search of broadwell's house. agents were seen carrying out about half a dozen boxes of plastic containers. "the charlotte observer" newspaper is reporting two xauters and a printer were among those taken. senior law enforcement tells pete williams, our justice correspondent, this wasn't necessa necessarily a raid but rather a consensual search. that official says this wasn't necessarily a game changer either but rather an extra step to ensure thoroughness. now the inv
general john allen is in washington today. he was preparing for his own confirmation hearing to be the supreme allied commander in europe. that's on hold. the hearing for joseph dunford to be allen's successor as commander in afghanistan will go ahead. look, we have all the angles covered here. nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, investigative correspondent michaeli isikoff. pete williams seemed to indicate the fbi was closing its investigation of broadwell. so why have to go to...
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harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing going on and i do think that this posturing
harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest...
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so i think he came out so strongly so that when he doesn't appoint her and goes with someone like john kerry or even tom donelan, his defense is already on record. and he doesn't have to relitigate that again in the press. >> i'll tell you what i saw yesterday, issue aside, i saw a president with a heightened level of testosterone, gravitas, and maybe a precursor of what he's going to look like the next four years. i saw a definite different kick to his step. obviously, he's been going toe to toe, but there was an authority, there was a -- i'm going to keep using the word "testosterone." a lot of that was missing in the first term, and i found that very interesting, his first kind of public volley eight days later as a harbinger of things to come. >> he spoke quickly in that press conference. did you notice? it was the fastest i've ever heard him speak. you know, we got accustomed over the past four years to a very slow, methodic kind of elongated speech pattern. and he came out, he was rapid, he was quick. >> you got a problem? come to me. i found that very interesting. >> richard, wh
so i think he came out so strongly so that when he doesn't appoint her and goes with someone like john kerry or even tom donelan, his defense is already on record. and he doesn't have to relitigate that again in the press. >> i'll tell you what i saw yesterday, issue aside, i saw a president with a heightened level of testosterone, gravitas, and maybe a precursor of what he's going to look like the next four years. i saw a definite different kick to his step. obviously, he's been going...
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can john boehner control the tea party? can mitch mcconnell protect his right flank? thank you very much. >> by the way, he's got to, i guess. he's got an election coming up himself. >> and he had a tough re-election. remember, he had to run six years ago right after the auto bailouts, had a tougher election than he wanted. >>> still ahead, new jersey governor chris christie joins the set. also actor bradley cooper will be here. next, senator saxby chambliss and andrea mitchell. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. ♪ i seen your picture ♪ your name in lights above it >>> 26 past the hour. a live look at the white house. joining us now from washington, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andre
can john boehner control the tea party? can mitch mcconnell protect his right flank? thank you very much. >> by the way, he's got to, i guess. he's got an election coming up himself. >> and he had a tough re-election. remember, he had to run six years ago right after the auto bailouts, had a tougher election than he wanted. >>> still ahead, new jersey governor chris christie joins the set. also actor bradley cooper will be here. next, senator saxby chambliss and andrea...
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john heilemann is still here, unfortunately, for me, right next to me. it's just a question of which one of us is going to drive this show into a bridge. >> or either one of our careers. >> i know. also joining the table, the director of the earth institute at columbia university, economist dr. jeffrey sacs. cohost of "the cycle," s.e. cupp and former governor of pennsylvania and political analyst and unfortunately pathetic philadelphia eagles fan. >> yeah. >> ed rendell. >> how true. >> you know, before we start -- congressman ryan, you just saw him. >> yeah. >> you just heard him. >> yeah. >> graveyard whistling. >> go ahead. >> that's basically what i was looking for, whistling past the graveya graveyard. we'll get to that in a second. we'll start this hour with the fiscal cliff where the white house is showing its cards and sending a message ahead of the president's face-to-face meeting with republican congressional leaders on friday. the president plans to open negotiations by calling for $1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue over the next decade.
john heilemann is still here, unfortunately, for me, right next to me. it's just a question of which one of us is going to drive this show into a bridge. >> or either one of our careers. >> i know. also joining the table, the director of the earth institute at columbia university, economist dr. jeffrey sacs. cohost of "the cycle," s.e. cupp and former governor of pennsylvania and political analyst and unfortunately pathetic philadelphia eagles fan. >> yeah. >>...
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john, good to have you with us tonight. by rejecting the state-run exchanges, are these republicans paving the way for universal health care? what's happening here? >> i sure hope they are paving the way for universal health care, it's a great idea. but the fact of the matter is they are harming their own states. states are different. they have different levels of commitment to health care. many states have built out their own systems. and governor walker, who spoke about this building of a house was exactly wrong. in most states, you have the outlines of a house. what the federal government gave states the opportunity to do was to outfit that house as they chose to use what they already have in place. instead these governors are choosing a one-size-fits-all solution that will be worse in some cases. they are turning money back to the federal government at a time when we are supposed to be broke. when we've got all these financial problems. these states that refuse to set up their own exchanges are turning tens of millions
john, good to have you with us tonight. by rejecting the state-run exchanges, are these republicans paving the way for universal health care? what's happening here? >> i sure hope they are paving the way for universal health care, it's a great idea. but the fact of the matter is they are harming their own states. states are different. they have different levels of commitment to health care. many states have built out their own systems. and governor walker, who spoke about this building of...